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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:42 pm
I just read it. With the Two Steps From Hell album Pathogen playing in the background, naturally.
So fucking good. So nostlagic. All those unfinished plot threads put to good use. All those characters brought back. The feeling when I read that you had finished the translation can only be compared to the feeling when I found Lord Birch's blog the first time, with 10 or so of the first PKNA issues translated. And after all those expectations, it didn't disappoint me one bit.
Now excuse me as I go orgasm by myself somewhere else. After all, gotta give space for the other fans to ventilate.
Banker Admin
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:16 pm
I've renamed the thread for convenience.
Here's to more talks to come as more stories come. And here's to that as well.
People who haven't read it, get to it already! So damn good!
donald57
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:17 pm
Just read it, thanks for the translation.
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So if I understood correctly: During Pk², Grrrodon builds his army. A long time after Pk², Donald is killed. The Raider prevents that and transports Donald to an Evronian cruiser, thus beginning the story. After some battles, the Avenger defeats Grrrodon. Grrrodon survives though and is ultimately defeated by a younger Avenger (in PKNA#5). There are two things I don't understand though: - Weren't the spores on Russel's field exterminated in PKNA #8? - Trauma was mentioned to have disappeared, but he was just rescued by Evronians in PKNA #10, wasn't he?
All in all, the story was interesting. I liked how many loose ends were tied together. Sometimes I think there was a bit too much action and not enough talking though especially Odin didn't do his role justice, and the Raider's betrayal felt unnecessary and forced (Ohai we have been through so many events and got to be valuable allies I betray u now kthxbai)
Definitely excited for the next story though, hopefully it explores some of Pk²'s stuff
Eccentric
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:59 pm
donald57 wrote:
Just read it, thanks for the translation.
Spoiler:
So if I understood correctly: During Pk², Grrrodon builds his army. A long time after Pk², Donald is killed. The Raider prevents that and transports Donald to an Evronian cruiser, thus beginning the story. After some battles, the Avenger defeats Grrrodon. Grrrodon survives though and is ultimately defeated by a younger Avenger (in PKNA#5). There are two things I don't understand though: - Weren't the spores on Russel's field exterminated in PKNA #8? - Trauma was mentioned to have disappeared, but he was just rescued by Evronians in PKNA #10, wasn't he?
All in all, the story was interesting. I liked how many loose ends were tied together. Sometimes I think there was a bit too much action and not enough talking though especially Odin didn't do his role justice, and the Raider's betrayal felt unnecessary and forced (Ohai we have been through so many events and got to be valuable allies I betray u now kthxbai)
Definitely excited for the next story though, hopefully it explores some of Pk²'s stuff
Thanks for typing that out, it was hard to keep it organized in my head
As for the bundle of issue 1, I have already fangirled on tumblr, stuffed the tags with my screenshots, and pretty much been jaw-dropped the whole time.
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I adore the new character of Omega (or three?) is such a snarky jackass, he's like a good balance of Two (with his sadistic evil character) and One (with his calm, level headedness). I adore him!
I also love all the damns, it's a good addition to the seriousness that is PK. We left off at suc ha good
I am so exhausted! BUT
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We ended on a good note! We are now going to see what happened to Everett and how One is going to come back to continue on and fulfill his duty at becoming the seriously hot Odin Eidolon!
And from the looks of it, it seems Everett fared well getting back to Corona, with that ponytail and all -- which, just from the few issues of flashbacks, is something Coronians wear.
This was going to be a 6-parter right? I'm lost now at how this thing was supposed to play out since Issue 1 was put in episodes rather than issue
Banker Admin
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:26 pm
donald57 wrote:
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There are two things I don't understand though: - Weren't the spores on Russel's field exterminated in PKNA #8? - Trauma was mentioned to have disappeared, but he was just rescued by Evronians in PKNA #10, wasn't he?
I'll see if I can solve these...
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Nothing was ever exterminated, what happened back then was that spores hatched and the grown Evronians were picked up by their own kin. There might have been more spores out in the field for all we know.
As for Trauma, who's to say what Gorthan did to him after being beaten? Certainly only he himself would know that, and Gorthan was not too long after abandoned by the Empire and hunted down by the Evronians.
Those are my few cents.
Eccentric wrote:
This was going to be a 6-parter right? I'm lost now at how this thing was supposed to play out since Issue 1 was put in episodes rather than issue
This story here was to be split into 4 parts, and now they've been released.. As for where we're going from here, or when we're gonna get more, we don't yet have information on that.
But good start so far, good start.
Krozam
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:46 am
I'll say this much: as awesome as this was, it wasn't perfect. It was too rushed, especially after the damn near deus ex machina halfway through the last issue.
As for Raider...
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What was forced isn't Raider's betrayal, it was his return. I'm hoping his reasons will be explained later.
BubbleDaff
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:49 pm
I want to know how the Raider had his memories intact. Time wasn't changed so the Raider traveling back in time would never have happened in that timeline. He wouldn't have been a chronopirate.
I can understand why Lyla wasn't in the future though as she wouldn't have been created in that timeline.
And Donald would have his memories because he traveled forward so his memories wouldn't change because the future isn't written and can change blah blah blah.
Also, was it me or did anyone else get the impression that the Raider's son, Trip, didn't exist here...
Banker Admin
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:51 pm
Time travel's never made any sense in this series.
Eccentric
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:45 pm
The Raider gives a big middle finger to time travel
He does what he wants WHEN he wants
Banker Admin
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:04 pm
I may have my own small problems regarding this story, but I'm too happy to pay attention to them myself.
What I really wanna know now when it all eventually continues is about how Donald's life in general is at this present time. And also what time it actually is. The story wasn't too clear on how long it's been since the end of PK2, in regards to the time we currently find Donald in.
But yeah, life situation. Does he still work at Starcorp? How's his connection with certain characters? And I'd also like to know why he quit being a superhero in the first place.
So that's what I'm hoping for, getting to know some of that next time around.
Mr Blotling
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:17 pm
Read it now and I have to say, it was fucking wild! It might not have been perfect - indeed there are some stuff that could have been better - but boy, did it ever live up to the hype!
To find something maybe different to say than what has already been said, what I really did like was the emotion running through the story,
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especially Donald's message to the nephews.
The shivers man, the shivers!
Also, on a related note, I really appreciated how they really didn't pull any punches and just went all-out. More toned down compared to the original comics to fit into the more kid-friendly Topolino as was talked about? Fuck no! This was as wild and as dark as the original comics were.
So I will gladly join the choir singing the praises of the team behind this return and, of course, to Banker. Awesome job man!
Btw
Banker wrote:
What I really wanna know now when it all eventually continues is about how Donald's life in general is at this present time. And also what time it actually is. The story wasn't too clear on how long it's been since the end of PK2, in regards to the time we currently find Donald in.
While the amount of time between this and PK2 doesn't seem to be clear, it seems to me that it is stated that this takes place in present day, while still confirming that the original took place when it was written (Raider's gift for PK in the beginning). So I think it should be taken as yes, PK2 was over 10 years ago, with Comic Book Time in full effect as per Duck comic standard.
EDIT: I know, the only thing that is excplicitly stated is that something very spoilerish takes place in the end of 2014 and never how far into the future that actually is, but to me, it still feels that the story is meant to take place now.
But yes, more insight into Donald's personal life in this setting would be most welcome.
Lyla
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:28 am
Ok, so... my holiday just ended yesterday (or at least paused), but I didn't miss any of the 4 parts somehow. I think I'm gonna read the whole story again at once, before saying anything relevant.
I'm just gonna say eyergasm for now.
Banker Admin
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:04 pm
Well, if it's been that long, I suppose Mary Ann Flagstarr will have reason to come back soon.
... how scarily timed.
Mr Blotling
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:49 pm
Yeah, it's almost as if everything was meticulously planned out from the very beginning with all the plot threads revisited in this.
But that would just be totally insane, right?
...right?
Banker Admin
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:34 am
Mr Blotling wrote:
...right?
Lyla
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:50 pm
I don't know if you know about it, but Artibani tried a lot of times to bring this thing up during the years.
Banker Admin
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat Aug 02, 2014 10:38 pm
Damn Artibani already made his move in PKNA #34 to
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destroy the tower.
Bastard's been planning this event for ages.
Spoiler:
Eccentric
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:29 am
And now we wait for some sort of news of a continuation
BECAUSE YOU CANT JUST END IT RIGHT FRIGGIN THERE AND NOT EXPECT AN UPRAOR
Lyla
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:31 am
Wellll there was also an interview
Yeah it's a lot of non sense ofc if you don't know italian but they're not saying anything significant except that they organized this flash mob, PK never died during the years, Valentina didn't expect all this hype, she thinks it's awesome to have PK in Topolino, they're both glad and love to see that there are all this new little pkers.
Then some news about another series from Artibani (that doesn't involve PK).
Just thought it would have been nice to share.
Eccentric
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:49 am
Lyla
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:11 am
Ok, I just finished to read everything all at once.
It's beautiful. I loved it, in the end. Oh, and I loved the ending. That wasn't perfect at all though.
I'm still confused about the time thing. We've clearly seen everything being completely different in the future during PKNA, PK himself keeps saying "I knew that as that", "It wasn't like this", "what the fuck is wrong with this and that", etc. So, yeah, what?
There are also some little things I didn't really like too much. First of all, too damn hurrying. The balance between action and words isn't really handled well enough every now and then. They talk a lot, while sometimes it really isn't needed, and then they fight and fight and run and fight and aaaagh give me (PK) a break! I know being very fast and furious is kind of the point here but goddang, Sergio. Then, these 3 things:
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First: why in hell aren't the prisoners coolflamed? Yeah probably some other poetic stuff going on, like, everything is thought so that PK can actually interact with them and you reader can feel something in particular from their dialogues. I'm glad about that, but I still... meh. That still looks weird doesn't it?
Second: what are the consequences if the DT gets destroyed? How is it actually useful? I'm sorry, I didn't get it very straight.
Last and most important thing... the Raider as a Deus ex Machina pissed me off a tiny bit. It kind of makes it look like the rest wouldn't have been necessare if he didn't betray PK from the very beginning. Not just that, but he could have done all of this all by himself!!! It's a strange fact to think about, I mean. The Raider isn't stupid. He could have thought about this a lot earlier, I think. Or maybe not? Also, it makes PK a bit useless if it weren't for the presence of the Raider. What would he have done if the Raider didn't come back? But wait! If the Raider wasn't back, PK would be probably dead. The Raider was definely relevant here. Even if he really didn't do anything for most of the whole story. Mmmh...
Anyway! I'd be glad to retire everything I just said if someone has explanations. As for whatever still hasn't an explanation, I'm just here waiting for the next story and gladly hyping all over the carpet.
What I loved the most: definely PK's interactions with Sergio. Everything else was good. My body is satisfacted.
Over.
Eccentric
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Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:00 am
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