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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat May 09, 2015 5:30 pm | |
| I see it as the whole time travel thing got a hard reset, so that whole microcontraction should only be back when time travel becomes too much again. | |
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Zataro
Posts : 33 Join date : 2015-05-03
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sun May 10, 2015 10:31 pm | |
| Great work Almighty Lord of Corruption, thanks ^^ Not to nitpick (I fully understand you work with whatever you can get your hands on), but any chance the Final version will have better scans? Don't get me wrong, overall those are great (seriously, they could be considerably worse), but the scanner turned up the brightness too much, & something's really gone to town on the lines, costing us a lot of tone & detail compared to how that yummy artwork looks in print. Might & Power Deluxe is due on the 21st, so it's not that long off. If the eBay listing you're referring to is the one by Mondo Fumetto, they're good, I've used them a number of times (they also have a website if you'd rather get it from there directly for that matter), but their Listing is only for Pre-Order purposes - P.S. I feel I should mention though, I'm not sure if they're allowed to ship it outside of Italy. Onto the new Arc now; - Spoilers. MANY SPOILERS.:
I was thinking about the Micro-Contraction Barrier as well, which apparently pierces through multiple Timelines, as it was present in the Evron-Future, but since Raider could freely travel into the Past, where the Earth hasn't yet shifted out of Orbit, I believe it doesn't exist yet. Based on that, I suppose we're to assume that while Steampunk Duckburg is in the 23rd Century, the story itself takes place before the Barrier goes up....? Or something like that.
The Lyla Paradox on the other hand is weird as hell, though this time we'll definitely get some explanation as to why she still exists in this Time Police-free Universe even though she shouldn't, unlike how she just magically reappeared in PK2 02 after disappearing from PKNA forever in 43. - There's also the Physical changes, which may or may not be relevant (it could easily be an updated Model for some "discrete" Fan Service), or it's a way of hinting towards something being different about her, either way we'll find out in the coming weeks.
IMO there is a chance that she might be from an Alternate Timeline/Universe (Personal Theory - the Raider we knew from PKNA is still stuck under the Micro-Contraction Barrier in the 23rd Century, whereas the Raider that starred in Might & Power is an Alternate Raider, possibly from a different Timeline/Universe, seeing as he mentions how he "found" Odin. Also notice how Trip is conveniently never mentioned....), though to be fair I'm not entirely sure why she'd keep that a secret. Unless we've got some weird Timeline-colliding/merging stuff going on because of all the changes to History someone's doing.
The "Old Man" in the Library is not the Raider though, unless he loses/lost the Biogenerator thingy he got from the Omega Chamber in M&P. Raider is quite probably the mysterious shadow though, note their reactions to him, & I seem to recall some report from a few months back that the Raider would make an appearance in the next (yes, this one) Arc as well. - Don't quote me on that though.
Overall it wasn't a bad start, but I think most people are just generally disappointed because this issue wasn't as "WOW" as Might & Power 01. I mean, there's really very few things that can beat a "You died <insert slideshow of final moments>, & your death resulted in an Alien Invasion & Near-Extinction of Humanity. - DUN-DUN-DUUUUUUN."
Personally I was expecting his Nano Suit & Omega Weaponry (even though that's some seriously overpowered stuff), instead of the Old School Arsenal, though it was a nice touch having them recover the Original X-Transformer (which I guess we're supposed to assume was somehow returned to Ducklair Tower after he hung up his Cape all those years ago?). Since they went through the effort of recovering it however, it does make me wonder if we'll be seeing him using it in the long-term, which would be rather disappointing considering how they even set it up so the Suit version of Omega survived Ducklair Tower's Self-Destruct, unlike how One would have been wiped out. Not really a con IMO, just not what I was expecting.
On the other hand, I found the Ducklair Tower break-in to be ridiculously simple. Sure, I suppose we can assume a bunch of background processes scanned & identified them, informed Omega down in his Super-Secret Lair & let them pass, but even so. Sure, it wasn't even particularly difficult in M&P either (jab open the Gargoyle, jump in, take the Elevator down, wait for the Tower to recognize the Keycard, done), but one would think the Evronian Threat would have put the Tower in a state of higher alert or something.
I did love the references to the past though - Lyla discretely reminding us that she's still never met One, & by extension doesn't know that he got disabled & the Avenger was actually referring to his new Partner, Omega, which made me wonder how that conversation would have gone - "What? Why do you need a relic? I can just give you another Nanosuit, strip naked & get into the <thing> already." Hahahaha ^^ Later on we also get a reference to (I believe) Day of the Cold Sun, where they discuss how Lyla should technically know nothing of the Future, & she replies that she's taken a few peeks over the years.
All-in-all, it was a start, it set the stage for everything, nothing more, nothing less. I have no doubt things will pick up in Part 2 (some actual explanations for what's going on, at last, I'm thinking), & this Arc will end up being a great read by the time we get to the end (Part 4).
In closing, yes, my wall of Text is now finally over ^^
Oh, & the Topolino Website has this new Wallpaper to commemorate the Argini del Tempo Saga - click HERE for the full-size 1920x1080 version -
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Krozam
Posts : 115 Join date : 2012-03-14 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sun May 10, 2015 11:28 pm | |
| I haven't changed my wallpaper in a while. This will do nicely, thank you. | |
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ankokudaishogun
Posts : 72 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon May 11, 2015 12:13 am | |
| About the micro-contraction: Time-travel in PKN* universe works basically like hyperspace- except in time. People remove themselves from the normal time-flow, stay in the Timey-Wimey Weirdspace we've seen a few times, and then come back in the regular time-flow at the time of their choice. The micro-contraction affected the TWW, making impossible to access it and travel through it.
Sure, there is the problem of the relativeness of time-travel. But that's explanable with the Timey-Wimey Ball Theorem | |
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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon May 11, 2015 12:21 am | |
| If there are better scans available, I will gladly use them for the full version. | |
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Zataro
Posts : 33 Join date : 2015-05-03
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon May 11, 2015 1:27 am | |
| Dammit, now I wish I had a scanner..... Especially with the PK Giant Reprints every month No offense intended btw, it is after all only thanks to you & your extensive efforts (which we're all very grateful for) that I & a ridiculous amount of other people have read PK. <Insert further ass-kissing here>. | |
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Celestis
Posts : 28 Join date : 2012-03-18
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon May 11, 2015 9:56 am | |
| - Banker wrote:
- Well, if you're willing to wait that long while we spoil everything in this thread...
That is a very compelling argument. Having read the story, I have given the microcontraction-problem ( that I already mentioned) some more thought. Technically, there is no problem with Lyla being able to time travel again. If one accepts the absurd explanation that future earth moving somehow changes the laws of physics, it should have an instantaneous effect on all timelines equally. See, tachyons - which they use for jumps - are particles that move in time but not in space, just like regular matter moves in space but not in time. If I detonate a bomb, it has an area effect on everything around it, but the explosion does not propagate into the past. Vice versa, if something changes the way that tachyons behave, it should affect all of them across time, but only in a certain spot. How I see it, Evron-Earth made time travel possible again, Odin used his superior mind to reverse-engineer the effect and gave the raider some sort of device to use on present Earth to duplicate the results on the coordinates where our little blue planet used to be. Now only one major question remains: Why does Lylas left foot have a reflection on the cover art, but her right one doesn't? | |
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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon May 11, 2015 12:45 pm | |
| - Celestis wrote:
- Now only one major question remains: Why does Lylas left foot have a reflection on the cover art, but her right one doesn't?
IMPOSTOR! GEENA IS BEHIND IT ALL! | |
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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Mon May 11, 2015 8:40 pm | |
| Scans for the new Topolino are already up on the net.
Time to download... | |
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Eccentric
Posts : 128 Join date : 2013-05-13 Age : 27 Location : Hitchhiking around the Galaxy
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue May 12, 2015 12:08 am | |
| Yes Im just going to....
*Gets on floor* *lays downs* *Waits*
I can't stop speculating who the villaine is this time...and also Elder Scroll races these characters would be
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Zataro
Posts : 33 Join date : 2015-05-03
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue May 12, 2015 3:44 am | |
| And we finally have a decent-sized version of the Might & Power Deluxe Cover - - Spoiler:
Also, any chance of a Download Link for Part 2? | |
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megasupermoon
Posts : 33 Join date : 2012-03-15 Age : 31 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue May 12, 2015 8:30 am | |
| - Zataro wrote:
- Also, any chance of a Download Link for Part 2?
Three differen links for Topolino 3103 here: http://www.easybytez.com/0c011wss1gpu http://linestorage.com/xh25vrxiw3uk http://uploaded.net/file/xouf2gup | |
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Zataro
Posts : 33 Join date : 2015-05-03
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue May 12, 2015 2:37 pm | |
| Thanks for the links. - So.......:
So..... (a) yet-unnamed "terrifying force/s" created a massive amount of extra Space-Time, using a yet-unnamed [object/item] creating some sort of.... Contemporary Infinite Multiverse of Alternative Timelines (Alternative Futures), all within a single Universe?
So "argini" is what, rails? Like, a railroad track? The Rails of Time?
How in the hell do people scan this before it even goes on sale though? :O | |
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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue May 12, 2015 4:00 pm | |
| Nah, it's "banks".
There's also talk about time breaking its banks, overflowing, creating a flood. | |
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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue May 12, 2015 6:44 pm | |
| Hmm, there seems to be speak about the villain being female. Or at least one of them is... | |
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ankokudaishogun
Posts : 72 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Tue May 12, 2015 8:43 pm | |
| THE HYPERCRISIS IS REAL! - Spoiler:
Krona, of the Guardians of the Universe, dared the forbidden: to look at the Birth of the Universe! Witnessing The HAND of Wolverine snikting himself unleashed fantastic energies that BROKE TIME APART!
Now, for every Universe, there are Different Divergent Timelines! And the Raider doesn't have his usual speech-bubble...
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Celestis
Posts : 28 Join date : 2012-03-18
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Wed May 13, 2015 5:48 am | |
| - Banker wrote:
- Hmm, there seems to be speak about the villain being female. Or at least one of them is...
- Spoiler:
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ankokudaishogun
Posts : 72 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Wed May 13, 2015 9:52 pm | |
| by the way, we find _NOTHING AT ALL_ about whoever caused the time-mess. Wo might or might not Ghiottolone. | |
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Eccentric
Posts : 128 Join date : 2013-05-13 Age : 27 Location : Hitchhiking around the Galaxy
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Wed May 13, 2015 10:07 pm | |
| We've still got 2 episodes left to get this thing going
Two episodes left | |
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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat May 16, 2015 1:53 pm | |
| https://imgur.com/a/Cr0G5#0
Here's the new translation. | |
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Eccentric
Posts : 128 Join date : 2013-05-13 Age : 27 Location : Hitchhiking around the Galaxy
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat May 16, 2015 4:29 pm | |
| I really hope we get to go back to Time ø and see other old future characters @ u @
Like Odin | |
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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat May 16, 2015 5:04 pm | |
| Oh, and I will point out that this isn't the first time speech bubbles have been drawn wrong. | |
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Eccentric
Posts : 128 Join date : 2013-05-13 Age : 27 Location : Hitchhiking around the Galaxy
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat May 16, 2015 7:02 pm | |
| Anyone got any idea what the next "The Black Ray" is going to be about?
Good possibility Xerbians. Or just space in general. I'm hoping for Uno and Everett to finally come in, but I have a feeling we are not going to get them until the last fourth issue :/ | |
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Banker Admin
Posts : 276 Join date : 2012-03-08 Age : 32 Location : Norway
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat May 16, 2015 7:47 pm | |
| Well, "Might and Power" is pretty much the "Evronians" of this generation.
Then there's "The Winds of Time" and "The Banks of Time"...
Maybe "The Black Ray" will have some thing to do with Xadhoom. | |
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Eccentric
Posts : 128 Join date : 2013-05-13 Age : 27 Location : Hitchhiking around the Galaxy
| Subject: Re: PK New Era Discussion Sat May 16, 2015 8:16 pm | |
| Thinking on this current issue's title, "The Banks of Time", and realizing the meaning behind banks is in River Banks, where the river is sort of a symbolism for TIME, and now looking at "The Black Ray" alongside the preview image we were given, perhaps there will be a device which threatens the Xerbans' new sun, covering it up and killing it, thus killing Xadhoom for sure.
We have what I think looks to be a sun symbol in the preview panels, could be a reference to the Xerbians' sun.
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